Who makes the best end mills?
Who makes the best solid carbide 4 flute end mills? Please provide a name and a link.
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Paul G
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china makes the best endmills hehe sorry had to say itim to cheap to know who makes the best anything but.. told http://www.micro100.com/ makes some of the best little bits.
We use SGS Z-Carb endmills at work. They rough out material like butter.
http://www.carbidedepot.com/bot-zcarb.asp
Last edited by WayneHill; 03-18-2005 at 03:29 AM.
SGS Z-carbs are bit**in'
Others worth noting are
Dataflute (In particular the proven 3 flute SS series and the new SSDH double helix)
Hanita Varimill and other series
And recently I've been playing around with Benchmark variable Helix tools. Can't find a link right now though. Having good results with them too.
Last edited by psychomill; 03-18-2005 at 02:12 AM.
For uncoated carbide, we use Bassett. Not sure of a link though. They come in square yellow tubes, with a picture of a bassett hound on them. Quick google search didn't find a web site. But did find a reference to Kennemetal being their parent company.
Ultratool tialn coated will cut almost anything at great speeds. http://www.ultra-tool.com/
If you want to do high-end hardmilling you cant beat Mitsubishi
www.integratedmechanical.ca
Depends on your application, Paul.
Hanita makes some incredible EM's for most metals. I ran one for almost 3 months solid in alum, (3/4" rougher, 3 fl), running at 175 IPM, half a dia deep. Hauls ass thru material, and I filled up nearly 6 bins that measure about 4' x 5' x 8' long (yes, that's in FEET) full of compact chips with one endmill, and it STILL wanted to cut more. Truly incredible tools.
I've used a lot of EM's in my 20+ year career, and none came close to Hanita Varimills.
Matt
San Diego, Ca
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All,
I just asked my super in the machine shop! Get this, they have found it cheaper and easier to buy the cheap Enco mills, use them till they go dull, throw them away and buy new ones. Plus he passes out the "Nice wood Box" to the guys that work for him.
Go Figure!
Regards,
Glen
Buying a cheap EM for 1/2 the price of a good one, that lasts 1/10th the time doesn't seem like a good idea to me.Originally Posted by BigDaddyG
Matt
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Ah OSG is a japanese company, much of the worlds
source of carbide powder comes fron china.
Yes osg makes wonderful endmills, taps and drills
they are the choice of many high volume shops and manufactures.
Ya my very last boss before I opened my own shop bought the cheap stuff (I didn't see a carbide end mill the hole time i worked there!) but an american made HSS end mill will blow away most import Carbide end mills and our carbide end mills are sweet!Originally Posted by BigDaddyG
All,
I just asked my super in the machine shop! Get this, they have found it cheaper and easier to buy the cheap Enco mills, use them till they go dull, throw them away and buy new ones. Plus he passes out the "Nice wood Box" to the guys that work for him.
Go Figure!
Regards,
Glen
Buying a cheap EM for 1/2 the price of a good one, that lasts 1/10th the time doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
when using cheep you have to change tools alot and setup takes time not to mention if the tool gives up the ghost alot you get more scrap parts!
I use carbide and almost everything and you can get almost any USA carbide to perform well in aluminum. If your machining other materials well its what your used to.
I spin 1/2" Fullerton TaiLN coated carbide to 670 sfm at .002 per flute all day and you can time when they will go bad to within a couple of minutes cut time, so that is what I use.. But there are WAY better brands out there But they cost $$$. Hanitas are awsome but you pay for them and I am unwilling to pay that learning curve to use another brand.
So I stick with fullerton its cheap and you can buy it on http://www.discount-tools.com/ for nothing.
Micahel t.
Doh! I hate it when they do that.Ah OSG is a japanese company
JR
We use Robbjack carbide tools with out exception
http://www.robbjack.com/
+1000 Rekd.Buying a cheap EM for 1/2 the price of a good one, that lasts 1/10th the time doesn't seem like a good idea to me.
I've even used endmills that cost nearly as much as 'good' one (even 'copies') and they don't last nearly as long, can't take the chiploads, and/or break down in the corners real fast.
Get the good stuff... you'll be glad you did.
The curve is relatively short. I used to test Fullerton cutters... well I'll leave it at that.Hanitas are awsome but you pay for them and I am unwilling to pay that learning curve to use another brand.
670sf, .002 chip... is that aluminum? Why not 2000-3000sf and .01 to .015 chip?
Well worth the price of admission.
Matt
San Diego, Ca
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Sorry, OSG is a Japanese company. The "O" in OSG stands for Osawa, the founder of the company. They also have 3 factories in the US and many others around the world. Your em may have been packaged at the Glendale (?) plant... was it made there? Maybe... maybe not.
Some good stuff at any rate...
Wow, some expensive endmills. The fullertons, never used them, but they seem a little high. The RobbJack, WOWW expensive, are they worth it in the $40 range for 1/2" carbide. We've been using Titan's out of massachusettes, we get them from cutting edge in colorado. http://www.cets-online.com/ The prices are incredible, our J&L rep was hurt that we were buying from someone else, but couldn't touch the price. The carbide roughers are awesome. 450 sfm in 1018 at 70ipm will give about 1/2hour of tool life, back off to 280sfm 40 ipm and it will last for ever. 1600 sfm in aluminum 700ipm and its nice and happy. 3-400 minutes of tool life in A286 at 100 sfm .003 per tooth. 1/2" roughers are under $40, and finishers under $20. 1/4" are almost free.
Thats my plug for the day. I've been really impressed with the quality and even more impressed with the price.
I've been running a Vertical Mill for 15 years.
I buy American when I am 1/2 and over because they are so expensive.
I buy the imported whatever brand when I am using the small ones..
(I tend to use end mills 3/4 inch and larger most times in my work)
Murphy
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